Think like a fish

Posted by Sharon Smith 
In the article of the same name in the recent Wangler does Gary actually use " live" blackies for bait or does he mean the good old tarwinge. I profess to knowing a little bit about fishing but what would take a live bream other than say a very large mully?
By the way Stages and Bo - congrats on a great new site that all of us can play on.
Sharon
Apart from a mulla, hmm, sharks, stinking-ray, sambo' , big salmon should round it out for most of the coastal beaches I' d reckon.

Peter,
I' ve never ever thought of using a great fish like a black bream (which takes ages to mature) for live bait. Have used all the favourites, herring, whiting, etc but not bream.
Shazz

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ORIGINAL: Sharon Smith

Peter,
I' ve never ever thought of using a great fish like a black bream (which takes ages to mature) for live bait.


I agree with ya sas. Don' t think i' ll be trying it. Fight em and put em back is my moto.
Used herring lots, whiting have never worked for me, love a little skippy out, but bream??

Hi Guys

I think Wother meant using Silver Bream (Tarwine) for bait in his article. Not Blackies. At least that is the way I read it.

Nicko
Me too sas, so why did ya post.... don' t wanna be a tailor either?? huh[grinning smiley][grinning smiley]
Don' t think anyone would use blaks as livies.... or ?
Um, err, yeah, we are talking silver bream in the surf here, not blackies.

But having said that, I wouldn' t be against using blackies as bait, it' s just that I can' t think of a reason why we' d need to with all the other options that are easier to deal with?

I take a bit of a more " black and white" approach to my fishing that' s all. To me, all fish are just part of a big chain of events, I step into that chain to catch the fish I want. Along the way I usually have to make use of some other part of the chain as " bait" or something but even with lures I' m still hitting on the chain in a way that it wouldn' t normally get hit.

So, to use fish that get reveered as being a bit special for lots of good reasons in ways that other people don' t is just one of those things. For example, if using 30cm black bream was the absolutely only bait a 15kg mulloway would eat in the Swan then if I was serious about catching a Swan Mulla I' d not hold back pinning one on an 8/0.

Just like I don' t hold back about using tailor as bait, or about giant herring or baldies for that matter.

The fish that I hold as being special is the one that I want to catch, anything else that helps me to do that is just another important tool in the kit.

Having said that, no, I don' t use blackies as bait, but all fish are fair game if the cap fits.



Sorry Nicko and Shazz, got mixed up with too many screens open.
Ando, I agree with you, anything to help pull the one you want... just never heard of anyone using black bream as livies.
I like the approach Peter. To me fishing is a practical thing. I like to catch and eat fish. Don' t believe in slaughter but will knock off a fish to suit the purpose - but will avoid any species I consider endangered. I believe the greatest threat to any fish is not people fishing them but the destruction of the environment in which they live - this must be protected at any cost whether it is black bream (as in the Swan) or the pelagic ocean species. I want my grandkids to enjoy fishing as much as I do.
>>" I like the approach Peter. To me fishing is a practical thing. I like to catch and eat fish. Don' t believe in slaughter but will knock off a fish to suit the purpose - but will avoid any species I consider endangered. I believe the greatest threat to any fish is not people fishing them but the destruction of the environment in which they live - this must be protected at any cost whether it is black bream (as in the Swan) or the pelagic ocean species. I want my grandkids to enjoy fishing as much as I do. " <<

Good points there Ron[smiling smiley]
Ando,
I total agree with your approach. In the wild black bream are eaten by other fish therefore they must be good bait for some fish. I don' t use blackies for bait but would not hesitate if it was the preferred food of the fish I was targeting.
I like your views Peter, but I still don' t think I would use a black bream as bait even if it was the preferred bait of the bigger fish[smiling smiley][smiling smiley][smiling smiley][smiling smiley].
Sharon
G' day " uncle Ron" , have been getting some reports from fellow W' Angler' ites about poaching my Pallinup blackies on lures.

Gonna hafta put a toll gate across the Hassell H' way to control the westward movement from Bremmer.

Yeah, you ' n me both re the enviro' thingy.

Fish are amazingly resiliant at coming back if we give ' em a chance, oh, that and don' t kill too many into the bargain.

That ol' chap from Albany (works in a shop or something) is having a ball, been sending him some contraband from up here he' s using to fool the fish in his area.

Might hafta start charing a premium if he catches too many, huh?
No argument from me, Sha' z.

I' m a bit that way with flatties in the Swan, I' d rather catch it twice than eat it once, but then a don' t bat an eyelid when the kids decide to keep a couple either. Same with brownies when I useta chase in the Harvey / Pemb' y streams, kept a couple didn' t like ' em, chucked ' em all back after, loved to catch ' em though.

Horses for courses.
The Pallinup blackies followed me against my will - honest! Been some nice ones in good condition & over 40. Due to pop back and check a few out shortly. If you come down this way don' t forget to get your right of entry by notifying me! The bug yellow beast is very civilized to fish from.
The old bloke in the shop or something is well and truely lit up and knocking over some nice fish - seen more fire in his eyes than for a long time!\
Have a good one.

G`day Ron, aren`t you due for warmer pastures soon?, heard about anymore netting in the Pallinup?