Coraline Boats

Posted by Michael Orr 
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Was wondering if anyone had an opinion on Coraline Plate Boats? Have spoken to the manufacturer but would like any independent opinions/info.

Cheers
Mick
im guessing you were talking to the guys down at boat city, they are the only coraline dealers i think, while you are down there check out the caribbeans, it depends on what you want to spend but if you want a dry soft ride glass is the only way to go, it really depends on what type of ocean conditions youre planning to go fishing in.
otherwise coraline are a well finished tough plate boat with great deck room for their length, if i could give you any advise, it would be go the 4 strokes!
Hi Mick,

I checked out Coraline when I was searching for my new boat (ended up with the 6.4 Mal Douglas Trailcraft). In comparison to alot of the competition in my experience I found them to be a finished off a touch more roughly than some of the others (Chivers, Genisis, Trailcraft etc). Although they are quite cheap in comparrison. But watch the dollars climb when you want to add all the extras such as live bait tanks, kill tanks, cutting boards, hard tops, bigger fuel etc. But that is the same for most of the boats out there.

If I was just getting it for a rough and tough fishing platform then they are definately worth a look at. One of the pros up here operates out of an unpainted 6.7 Ocean Runner. If your buying second hand I think some of the earlier Corallines were a built light on in the sheet thickness on the bottom, but now they have that sorted.

Be careful though, you often see a 6.4m boat for around the 45K mark with say a 115HP 2 stroke bolted on the back. By the time you add all the extras, swap the motor to a more realistic power (200hp in my case) in either 4 stroke or HPDI and finish with all the trimmings including decent electronics, dual bats, deck washes etc The price skyrockets to around the 65-70K mark. (Sob Sob, still trying to justify it to myself!). Its all the little things that add up......

And what ever you do make sure you take it for a test drive. I've been meeting a few people that are extremely disapointed with the ride of their new boats including some of the well know brands that look very pretty with their flash paint jobs (or should I say bog jobs) on the trailer, but ride like dogs where it counts.

Cheers

Garry
Thanks for the replies,

Garry, I looked at the Trailcraft centre cab and thought to have a look and see what else was around and came across the Coraline boats. They look pretty good on the net, bit hard to get info on boats that aren`t main stream up this way.

How do you go towing the boat with the beam of 2.58m? as in only towing in daylight hours etc What sort of ride do you get with the Trailcraft because the deadrise looks pretty shallow. Coraline boats have a deadrise of 17 degrees so i would imagine it would be reasonable as far as ally boat goes, a tinny is a tinny.

Mick
Hi Mick,

I have just finished typing you a very very long reply, but the post failed!!! ahhhh[:@][:@][:@]

Towing the Trail crafts doesn't seem to be a problem. I have passed many coppers including the transport varity and none have blinked an eye. I guess because they are not of massive length that they escape the closer scrutiny.

I went for the trailcraft over the others as it suited my needs the best. The deadrise as far as I am aware is 17 degrees, and this was confirmed by a recent boating test on another abit older style Malcom Douglas Sports Cab.

I find the ride great considering it is still an ally boat. I can maintain the mid 20's in almost any conditions without fuss. I do find that the hull rides better at speed, and often I push it to the high 30s in most conditions up to about 23kt winds. In conditions under 18kts I will wind it out to 40kts plus and still the ride is quite good. I do however carry a lot of weight standard which definately helps the ride (have 350Lts of fuel, hard top, live bait tanks, kill tanks etc and all the fruit).

I've had her in 25-30kt winds with 1 to 1.5m chop and she performed great sometimes averaging 30kts plus. On a recent trip offshore 80km out she sat on the high twenties in 18 to 23kt winds and a 1 m ground swell without hassels. We only used 76L of fuel for a 160km round trip so I was pretty happy with the 200 Optimax on the back too.[smiling smiley][smiling smiley]

I've spoken to lots of other Trailcraft owners up here and they are all very happy, am are yet to hear a bad complaint.

The difference with the trail craft hulls is the cross frames are not welded to the bottom plates. The stringers which sit 200mm apart are then intern welded to the frames leaving about a 10mm gap. This allows flex in the bottom sheets which is why Trailcraft warrant the hulls for 5 years even when trailed over corrigated roads. Having owned other ally hulls in the past I can honestly say that she definately rides softer in small to medium chop. They also very carefully set up the weight distribution with the fuel as far back as possible which tend to stop the hinging effect that many nose heavy fuel midships boats have.

So in summary I'm very happy with the ride, not deep v glass hull standards, but very good for ally boats. Also it is extremely safe and predicable in heavy seas. I have tried repeatably to find the limits of the hull, but have yet to succeed. I haven't been able to get it to broach or bury the bow, so I'd say it is a safe predicable hull and the stabilty is first class.[smiling smiley]

My only complaints are I don't like the clinkered sides as they look too much like a pressed roll sheet hull and not a plate hull which they are. I visited the Trailcraft factory in Perth and was amazed at the stamping machine and what it was able to press. My sides are 4mm and the bottom is 5mm. The sides are pressed plate whilst the bottom is conventional plate with planing strakes welded on (very neatly).

The other aspect is the paint job, which doesn't seem to have the lustre of the Genisis craft, but then again it doesn't have all the bog either. Also the trail craft, besides the full hard top version do seem to be a bit basic is finish.

Other boats that seem to be well made and ride well, besides the Genisis (which has too much bog and poor quality fittings for my liking) are Sea Rider. These seem to be well finished and ride well, but you do have to wait to get one.

Hull shapes designed by Gavin Mairs seem to work well too, especially those with the heavy reverse chines, along with the Jackmans (although these have too much sheer for my liking and often ride nose down at slow speeds). Make sure that the seats are well back so you don't get hinge effects with the unsupported weight up front. Some tend to have very sharp bows which don't offer a lot of bouyancy in a head sea, look good though!.

Also make sure that if you get a boat with an underfloor kill tank that this is fully sealed (Trailcraft are) as I have heard of a few boats around here almost sinking....

Another manufacturer that makes great boats and up your way, although I think mainly the Barra Punt style(?) are Galvins Boats in Broome. These are superbly made and the attention to detail that Galvo puts into his boats are first class. Give him a call and I'm sure he could custom make a more traditional hull if required. Also catch up with Tamlin Little via this forum who has just ordered a Galvin punt and is now living in Darwin.

I've attatched a pic of my boat on the trailer so you can see the transom deadrise.

Cheers

Garry

Ps I have no affiliation with any of the boats or manufacturers and am just basing my comments on my personnel experiences.

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Garry ive said it before, nice boat.......but Mate is that your home? WHAT an entertaining area..& what a view [grinning smiley]
Garry,
Bit of a side track, but have you fished around De Puch Island out from Whim Creek. I was there a few years ago without the fishing rod, isolated, crystal blue water, still like to get back there one day.

cheers
Mick
Top Reply Gary, made for an excellent read mate!


Cheers
Nah I wish Mr Barson! Local Boat Club that I launch at. Great view from here, just a shame about the conveyor belt noise from the nearby Hamersley Port Operations.[smiling smiley]

Mick,

Yep and it is as good as it looks. Great for big macks and all the other species. Doesn't get as hammered as some of the closer spots so definately worth the drive. Launching a big boat from Balla Balla can be a pain though!
Once again have a chat to Tamlin about it as he has fished there more than me, particullary the creeks nearby.

Cheers

Garry
Hiya Garry looks alot like norbill bay to me is that the n.w. gamefishing club in the background ... and which new motor did u decide on
Hi Bushy,

Yep sitting pretty in Norbill Bay.

I ended up getting the Optimax, although the price was pretty similar to the four strokes. Was talked out of the four strokes by a few people due to the service costs. Have found that the Optimax is just as economical, but heaps more power to boot, plus loves trolling. Only complaint is it isn't quite as quiet as say the Yamaha fours that I have seen.

Also your concerns re some fumes are founded. Every so often when trolling we do get a bit of a slight whiff of fumes/smell. No smoke or anything but just a bit of a smell. Apparently from what I'm told even the fours still give off a few fumes via the exhaust which occasionally you can smell.

Overall I'm happy though as I'm averaging at least 1 nautical mile per liter which equates to better than a 350NM range out of my 350L tank. Also with a top speed in excess of 40kts its also fun! Mind you having the smart craft instrumentation with the fuel flow info certainly curtails the speeds! At 40 kts plus she drinks at an alarming rate! Try 70L/hr! Therefore will stick to 30kts where it is only around the 30L/hr mark, or 23-25kts for around 20L/hr if I'm feeling lazy or have the Missus and young bloke on board.

Also oil consumption is bugger all. I'm running the you beaut Optimax Synthetic blend to look after the pride and joy, so that may help. I thought I would be going through the oil at a much faster rate, to the extent I brought 2 cartons of it when I was in Perth last since I couldn't get it up here. At this rate I won't have to ever buy any more oil in my lifetime!!!

Cheers

Garry

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Gaz
Is that bait board a Trailcraft job or your own work?


Cheers
Hi Mick,

One from Trailcraft that is the standard fitment for the Mal Douglas Special Edition. It's great for bait rigging etc and even has too stubbie holders and plenty of storage. My only complaint is it isnt removalable (easily fixed I suppose though).

Cheers

Garry
Its a nice piece of work for sure, might have a look at something similar for mine.



Thanks Gary
Hi Micheal
I purchased a Coraline 620 Ocean Runner in 2001 from the boat show in Perth . Then the problems started with cracked welds bubbling paint and bog falling out .The dealer and the boat manufacturer were not very helpful and didnt provide any paint warranties and any kind of service after spending 40k.
The other major issue that I had was the fact the boat was very prone to broaching in a following sea. And that the boat was very!!!! wet. Since then I have bought a Caribbean Reefrunner 21 ft and have not looked back since.
If you have any other questions email me