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High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 6:34:02   
John Poulos

 

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Was having a chat to someone that does a fair bit of servicing for charter companies jigging and popping about different reels, and he has seen more failures or issues with the saltigas rather than the stellas. Ive read saltigas can have problems with the rotor arm, or the bail, plus the drag is not as smooth and spikes. Stellas also have had issues too.

I expect that alot of these issues was from running really heavy braid and pushing the reels to the max, even hitting the side of the boat....But has anyone seen or heard of differing issues with these reels as well.

I dont believe for my application when I get one of these reels it will be a problem as I wont be pushing them anywhere near to the full potential in my daily use, but its nice to know what has happened to others..

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 7:42:59   
Daniel Mance


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Status: offline 		A few saltigas have been known to snap through the drilled reel stem.

But to be fair a charter reel generally has a hard life. They get used every day, and get treated pretty shabbily by folk who generally don't know what they ae doing, smashing them into railings and such.

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 7:43:20   
Mick Holt


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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 8:51:30   
John Poulos

 

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Status: offline 		The way I see it, fishing reels on charters are like cars at Avis or Budget car hire....Rental cars are always stronger than the same car outside that everyone owns....hence the park brake turns, speed hump launches, 4wd trips in corollas etc...

If a reel can survive being pushed to the max on a charter then it will live a life time in the hands of someone who looks after them.

None the less things happen and every product has a weakness in some way or another I guess....

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 9:10:49   
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Status: offline 		Well I would say that I would have had more fish over the reels than anyone so here is my thoughts....

I think back a few years ago when we tackled the fish with Spin fishers and TLD's - some gear was broken then. And people would arrive at the boat with braid so loose on the spool, well you know what happened

The Japanese reels are technically perfect, that is they are a joy to use but do have there failing as they are a cast/machined. So lock the drag, bang them on the rail or drop them on rocks they will suffer damage. I have seen rotors explode to rods left with nothing left but the reels foot.
The other that is making its mark felt is the Van Staal. This reel is what I would describe as "good old USA" machining. So far I have had them dropped, smashed into rails by the pull of the fish to anglers using the "axe drop" onto the rail when the jigging technique goes out the door. The winning point is apart from some scratching...... the reel goes on
The twin spin just did not survive the fish that we have here - mental note, ease up with the drag
Be it Stella, Saltiga, Van Staal, Accurate they all are great, top of the line reels. The problem with them all is "at some stage someone will use them that thinks that they can walk the walk but in reality just talks the talk"

On a last note.....would I purchase the reels (I have a few) again, can I justify the expence..... well does a pub sell beer



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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 9:18:43   
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The way I see it, fishing reels on charters are like cars at Avis or Budget car hire....Rental cars are always stronger than the same car outside that everyone owns....hence the park brake turns, speed hump launches, 4wd trips in corollas etc...




John - I think not



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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 9:35:40   
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ORIGINAL: Allan Bevan


Be it Stella, Saltiga, Van Staal, Accurate they all are great, top of the line reels. The problem with them all is "at some stage someone will use them that thinks that they can walk the walk but in reality just talks the talk"

On a last note.....would I purchase the reels (I have a few) again, can I justify the expence..... well does a pub sell beer




Well said ! Most of the time it's the anglers which is the culprits , not the gears but there are reels which were not tested thoroughly yet and hurrily released into the market that suffers a few minor failures internally but nevertheless rendered the reel unusable for that trip .

Jon .

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 9:41:07   
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Only 18 months ago it was the ducks nuts.... have never heard any more about them.
Anyone got one?

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 13:00:25   
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Status: offline 		Robert Ciotucha has one, saw it at WABDO, nice looking reel.

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 19:30:27   
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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 21:46:12   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dean Newman

Whatever happened to the ryobi safari?
Only 18 months ago it was the ducks nuts.... have never heard any more about them.
Anyone got one?


Hi Deano ,

Ryobi Safari MetaRoyal 5000 is a good jigging reel slotted right in the middle between Stella 8000FA n Stella 20000FA or Daiwa Z4500 and Z6000 , the only thing I wud change on that reel is the grip on the handle or better still the whole handle assembly with after market one and switch the drag washers to carbontex washers , other than these , MetaRoyal 5000
will do what the bigger reels can do .

Not sure what happened to Ryobi , I heard this reel along with the Marfix were sold to a Korean company and since then never heard of again .

Jon .

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RE: High end reel failures - 22 September 2006 22:09:30   
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RE: High end reel failures - 23 September 2006 19:36:23   
John Poulos

 

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The charter place is not like the normal ones that does day trips, rather guided extended tours out to different places and reefs chasing pelagics , GTs and other big reef dwellers. No bottom bashing or anything like that....


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