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Rock Fishing Safety - 15 June 2007 21:40:54   
Ray Walker


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First thanks to Western Angler for the free adds (greatly appreciated.) CALM have recognized anchors as a genuine safety aid, and have been approved by their risk management dept. to go ahead next summer and put anchors in from Cowtown Bay around to Black Point. We need a bit more feed back from the public (1) Are people aware that they exist in some locations already?, (2) Are people using them? (3) Do you know of any incidents where they have saved either yourself or someone else?

Look forward to hearing any of you comments. Cheers Rev
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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 15 June 2007 21:52:13   
Michael Oates


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Hi Ray,

Yes, No, No.

Don't get me wrong, I think they're a great idea. It's just that I don't fish off rocks as a rule, so I'm never that organized when I do. To be honest, I don't have anything set up with which to connect myself to one.
Do CALM use specifications for the anchors that would dictate what length line is suitable, or are they all different?

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 15 June 2007 21:57:55   
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If they prevent one life from being lost then they are well and truly worth the money and effort in installing.

Are they subject of much vandalism Ray?

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 15 June 2007 22:02:47   
Ray Walker


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Mick,We carry 10 mts of 8 mil rope with a fishermans safety loop on one end and tie it off at the anchor with a bowline.You adjust the length to suit each site. Rev

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 15 June 2007 22:05:14   
Ray Walker


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Brett, No problems in the 3.5 years since we started Rev

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 16 June 2007 16:46:51   
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ray all strength to your arm mate on this one this should have as much gov support as possible ,,as the anchors are a great safety measure

having rod fished a fair bit at wyadup ,,torpedo and cosey corner etc in the 70,80,s,,we have never been washed in but have seen acouple of guys get wet ,,scramble back out again ,,not good

it always seems to be when people see the sun out ,,blue sky ,,but they never check out the swell ,,anything above 2 mtres ,,keep an eye out big time ,,as you never know when they will rush up and over the rocks

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 11:06:05   
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Having fished the rocks around Albany for many years, I decided about 20 years ago that I would always carry a rope and tie myself on. A combination of not being a good swimmer and learning the fact that even a good swimmer may only last 10 minutes in the cold water befor their muscles start to seize up made me even more determined never to go in the water. I've seen some crazy stuff over the years and it all could have been avoided with $10.00 worth of rope.

A number of places have anchor points in the rock, installed by other fishermen. I have always been bemused as to why even the most popular spots did not have govt installed anchor points given their emphasis on safety whilst rock fishing.

Below is a recent story where a young guy was saved by a safety device installed at the Salmon Holes in Albany. The device was installed by the Nathan Drew Memorial Trust, which was formed by his parents after they lost their son at the Salmon Holes. http://www.coastalsafety.westnet.com.au/news.html

Teen fisherman’s tragic death saves boy’s life four years on

12th June 2007, 6:15 WST


A safety device installed after the death of a teenage fisherman four years ago has saved the life of a 16-year-old boy after he was swept off rocks at a notorious fishing spot at Albany.

In September 2003, 15-year-old Nathan Drew drowned when he fell into the sea at Salmon Holes. His family were determined his death would not be in vain and formed the Nathan Drew Memorial Trust.

Their efforts were rewarded on Sunday when Tom Warner was saved by the safety device pioneered by the trust and placed at two separate spots at Salmon Holes.

The teenager slipped and slid into the sea while fishing on Sunday morning but survived after he clung to a buoy thrown to him by friend Charles Walmsley.

When a buoy is taken from the canisters installed at Salmon Holes a prerecorded distress message is sent to South Coast Security, which monitors the devices 24 hours a day.

The trust has also bought 56 life vests which can be hired for $5 a day from various outlets on the south coast.

It is the second time this year that the trust’s safety devices have proved their worth.

In March, a 12-year-old fisherman was saved by a life vest hired from the trust at Cable Beach in Albany.

Nathan’s uncle, Graeme Drew, said Sunday’s incident proved how important the safety devices were.

“There’s a lot of work to be done behind the scenes to get these things into place but there’s reward for it when you see these people surviving,” Mr Drew said.

He said the trust had received a $14,000 grant from the Great Southern Regional Development Council to further develop the technology used in the buoy canisters.

Once the technology was perfected the trust hoped to install the canisters at dangerous fishing spots throughout WA and the Eastern States.

“We have very high hopes for this device and feel that it has the potential to save many, many lives all over Australia,” Mr Drew said.

“Nathan’s death was a real tragedy but it has motivated us to try to make sure that safety devices are available that can prevent these deaths.”

Tom, who is not a strong swimmer, said he would have died if not for the presence of the buoys at Salmon Holes.

He had been battered by waves before he was eventually pulled to safety by his friend after 15 minutes in the water.

After Tom fell into the sea, Charles opened the canister and threw two buoys towards his friend. The second reached Tom.

“He was pushed around a lot by the waves, so we waited until he got to a less slippery area than where we were and pulled him out,” Charles said.

“I was pretty scared. There are a lot of whirlpools around there.”

Charles said he and Tom decided not to go back to Salmon Holes.

RecFishWest executive director Frank Prokop said it was vital that safety devices were provided at more fishing spots.

“There is no question about that, especially when you see them saving lives like they have in this case,” he said.

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 11:42:56   
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Sad that somebody had to die for these safety precations to be installed. But after reading that story at least it was not in vain

Used to fish the Quobba coastline year after year. Seen a few guys that had to be rescued by boat from Blows beach. A long time to spend in the water. Some guys were lucky to survive.some unfortunately were not so lucky.

There are plenty of warning signs around these areas, but something as simple as an anchoring point will save a lot more lives.
I'm sure there would be a lot of funds that could be redirected to something as positive is this

Ray, any idea as to the cost of instalation of these anchor points.



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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 18:39:09   
Ray Walker


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G'day Rick, The anchors are made from marine grade SS. With the glue they cost about 70 dollars each.A few guys and myself from the Nat fishing club installed them. Cheers Rev.

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 18:45:44   
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Ray, are these anchor points for southern region only? I was thinking that these would also be good for places like Quobba and Steep Point (haven't been to Steep).

Is the rock type the reason that the tie off loops were introduced?

They are a great idea and anything that makes fishing safer should always be given a boost.

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 19:26:41   
Ray Walker


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Rob,The anchors are designed for granite.But with longer stems they would suit sandstone etc.We have a few[unofficial] at Goats Gulch in Kalbarri.It is a matter of the local CALM getting involved and it can be done. Cheers Rev.

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 19:31:51   
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In that story I find it odd that the boy was still swept in...isn't that the whole point of the anchors? To keep you from going in? I would guess he tied off too long?

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 19:50:43   
Ray Walker


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Mark,They don't have anchors down there.Our method prevents you from falling in,no rescue required.Unfortunately they wont use our method. Rev

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 20:01:09   
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Cheers Rev, just read it and assumed it was an anchor and thought something didn't stack up right. Doh! On that, I think anchors are a great idea and I would definitely use one.

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RE: Rock Fishing Safety - 17 June 2007 20:03:17   
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I'd rather come to a halt at the end of a rope than still go in and get battered around at the base of the rocks on a tether.

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